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Any hot spots in your build.  A hot spot can cause a quick temp protect message when coil actually hasn't heated to temp.  I suspect coil build or connections as opposed to having a lemon from what you say...
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tempco.JPG all my materials showing the same value after reconnecting device. i change values according to wire wizard and uploading settings to device. but after reconnect, they all change back to this value [frown] dont know what is wrong
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They are not changing back...look at the graph values before you open the small window to change it to see that.
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I am having the same issue at the OP.  I also changed the 316L profile with Jaquith's 3.5. with this sometimes it works. 

But when i start with a cold atty. it always say Temp protected indicating that it is reaching my desired 450F Temp. however the atty is still cold and produces little vapor.
i doubt it indicates the correct temp.

Also when i connect it to escribe and reload the profile. it works on the get go.  the problem starts again when the atty gets cold.

do i have a lemon?


Have you found what's the problem? I have same issue and got tired of it [frown]
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Just got a Therion which is my first DNA, and got it as I've been curious about the praise they get.... and...

Sadly, it's been difficult. The 316L settings being completely wrong, took me hours to track the info down on how to fix it.

Just found this thread and saw that it's still something that people are having issues with and no solid solution.

So here goes: I finally got it to work correctly by manually building a profile for the material (in Escribe) and long story short, used the 316L temp coefficient of resistances of 0.00159, then adjusted as per: 68F=1.0, and 800F=1.37.

Now all my tanks that I've tested is now matching as close as possible the experience I've always had with all my other mods.

I hope this helps anyone that might be having similar issues.

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Just got a Therion which is my first DNA, and got it as I've been curious about the praise they get.... and...

Sadly, it's been difficult. The 316L settings being completely wrong, took me hours to track the info down on how to fix it.

Just found this thread and saw that it's still something that people are having issues with and no solid solution.

So here goes: I finally got it to work correctly by manually building a profile for the material (in Escribe) and long story short, used the 316L temp coefficient of resistances of 0.00159, then adjusted as per: 68F=1.0, and 800F=1.37.

Now all my tanks that I've tested is now matching as close as possible the experience I've always had with all my other mods.

I hope this helps anyone that might be having similar issues.



A TCR value of .00091 will give you the same results...no adjustments necessary....00092 is a common TCR value used by lots of people & Daniel of DJSLB Vapes recommends a .00092 TCR value for 316L..http://www.djlsbvapes.com/dna200/..about half way down the page...00159 is very close to the TCR of SS410, which is .00155
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A TCR value of .00091 will give you the same results...no adjustments necessary....00092 is a common TCR value used by lots of people & Daniel of DJSLB Vapes recommends a .00092 TCR value for 316L..http://www.djlsbvapes.com/dna200/..about half way down the page...00159 is very close to the TCR of SS410, which is .00155


Ok thanks, then I'm perplexed about all this...

I know my wire is 316L, all my non DNA device balance out the very same warmth at the same settings, and what I've done is the only way I managed (after hours of testing with the .00092 parameter that simply didn't work right at all and trying to adjust manually a curve that would give me a better result).

And from what I've found online in other forums, etc. including very this thread, not a single place have I found someone stating "this is the solution" and confirmed by every one else that would try it.

The few "solutions" looked like patches solutions follow with maybe one person saying that it worked for them, but then others that would say that it either didn't work for them is just temporarily.

Right now, my "solution" as worked for all of my tanks (several tested)... and I'm at the point of simply going, if it's working, let's not mess with it anymore.
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Right now, my "solution" as worked for all of my tanks (several tested)... and I'm at the point of simply going, if it's working, let's not mess with it anymore.


Agreed...what works for one is not going to necessarily work for others...that's the beauty of the DNA devices, the ability to fine tune it to ones preferences...and alot of depends on the supplier of the material (wire) as well...I have had some 316L wires work good at .00088...some at .00092 and some work good at .00105...there are a lot of variables involved...none are right or wrong, it's what make YOU happy & satisfied that counts...enjoy & VAPE ON...[thumb]
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Agreed...what works for one is not going to necessarily work for others...that's the beauty of the DNA devices, the ability to fine tune it to ones preferences...and alot of depends on the supplier of the material (wire) as well...I have had some 316L wires work good at .00088...some at .00092 and some work good at .00105...there are a lot of variables involved...none are right or wrong, it's what make YOU happy & satisfied that counts...enjoy & VAPE ON...[thumb]


DANG IT, one day later and I'm back to issues where it was fine for a while, then it's back to nothing consistent....I just put the mod down for a few, then I go to use it again (nothing changed) and now I had to increase the temp by almost 200F to get the same warmth.

I've flipped back and forth with the settings, (going from my profile to the SS -standard" and it'll be fine for a few, then no more warmth again...

This is getting to be very frustrating.
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SS can be a finicky critter to work with...can you post a screen shot of your 'Mod' tab in Escribe & one of 'Device Monitor', while firing, with the following boxes checked...Power, Power Set, Temperature, Temperature Set, Cold Ohms & Live Ohms...also, what kind of coils are you using?
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SS can be a finicky critter to work with...can you post a screen shot of your 'Mod' tab in Escribe & one of 'Device Monitor', while firing, with the following boxes checked...Power, Power Set, Temperature, Temperature Set, Cold Ohms & Live Ohms...also, what kind of coils are you using?


OK, I've reset my mod to default, and back to bad TC... so adjusted 316L to 0.0013 (that gives 1.529 @ 800F), it's "Temperature dominant", 45W, 55W preheat at soft (1) and it's working fairly normal again....


I wonder how long this will last.

I've locked my OHM at 0.28 which the Atomizer Analyser confirmed...

Coils are a dual RTA built, wires are simple generic.

The thing is.. on ALL my "cheap" chinese mods, I have absolutely no issues at all, I can flip the tank from one to another mod (Eleaf, SMOK, Joytech) and put in the exact same settings and get the exact same experience (warmth, and TC cut-off, etc,).



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Can you post a screenshot of your 'Mod' tab...the DNA is a lot more accurate whereas the "cheap Chinese mods" are more forgiving & a lot less accurate...
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Are you using contact or  spaced coils?
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Can you post a screenshot of your 'Mod' tab...the DNA is a lot more accurate whereas the "cheap Chinese mods" are more forgiving & a lot less accurate...


Here you go...

Well, for less accurate, they are still giving me a much better experience out of the box and do give me a very consistent experience across all of them...

I wanted to see how different a DNA would be, and so far, it's been 3 days of serious headaches and for "more accurate", well.....it's getting ridiculous.

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Are you using contact or  spaced coils?


Spaced... tested as tested can be, no hot spots or anything.

I've been building for over  a year, as I said, never any issues, just with this mod.
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