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injen

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It should be able to play in temperature control out of the box like anyone other boards do , i' m really frustrated about the behavior of the mod.
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There is a learning curve with any APV.... all my APV's, including DNA's work "right out of the box"....( APV... Advanced Personal Vaporizer )

Here is a few videos and a tutorial (some need updating) but may help....

TUTORIAL :  https://downloads.evolvapor.com/escribe/guide/story.html










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injen

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I have seen them since theiir release ,
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Well here are the things i tried:

Steam Crave Supreme Lite with SS304 @ 0.20 Ohm
- No satisfying results
- Weak vapor
- Have to go way to high in temperature (250C and higher)

SvoeMesto Kayfun v5 with SS316L @ 0.51 Ohm
- Really satisfying results
- Good vapor production
- Temperature at the most common setting (215C-220C)

There are some things that could be the problem:

- The wire i am using might not be SS304. But the result ist the same in SS316/L mode. So i dont know what type of SS wire i am using right now.

- The DNA75 chip dont work good with SS304.

- There could be a problem with checking the right resistance (ohms) with SS304.

- TC might not work right with low resistance and SS wire.

- There might be a bug with the TCR setting for the materials. (Look at my post below)



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I found another problem in escribe.

I cant set the TCR for the wires.

For some reason the TCR was on 0.006 on default for all wires.

The right TCR for the wires should be:

Ni200: 0.00620

Ti01: 0.00350

SS316L: 0.00092

SS316: 0.000915

SS317L: 0.00088

SS317: 0.000875

SS304: 0.00105

SS304: 0.00105

SS430: 0.00138

SS410: 0.00155

NiFe30: 0.00320

Tungsten: 0.00450

Platinum: 0.00392

Nichrome: 0.00040

Gold: 0.00340

Iron: 0.00500


If i set the right TCR for example on SS304 (0.00105), this setting will be for all other wires too.

Is this a problem on escribe and could this be the reason why the device isnt performing on SS like it should?

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How you change the TCR in escribe? Isnt this fixed ? When you choose a material ?
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If there is already a material the TCR can still be changed.

Go to the material tab and click on "Actions" button. There you can change the TCR value.

For some reason the default TCR was 0.006 for every material. If you still change it to let it say 0.0092 this setting will be on every material on the device.

This is strange and seems to be a bug on escribe and on the firmware.
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This may explain a lot of things
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Maybe other people could try to change the TCR.

I just want to be sure that this isnt only my problem.

Thanks

EDIT:
This seems to be a bug for a long time now... I dont know why this havent been adressed yet:
http://evolvapor.forumchitchat.com/post/custom-material-tcr-shows-0-006-on-edit-8066215?pid=1293096167
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I will try it asap and see if this also happening to me because the low TCR explains the weak vape
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The 0.006 is just the default for the box you type a TCR in (close to Ni), DNAs don't use a single value TCR they use the non-linear profile you see as a line on the materials tab.  If it were the default these lines would all look like this, notice how it only has data point or black vertical line.
tcr0006.png 

You are not going to get the same vape form different tanks or drippers with different builds just because the coils are running at the same temp.  EG I find with Aromanizer RDTA using very high horizontal coils I like it about 400 F, but with Serpent Mini I have to turn the temp right up to 460+ to get much flavour and then vape is too hot.  This is mainly airflow and coil placement, but coil geometry plays a part to you have to have enough surface area to be able to spread that heat. Long legs can also get hot affecting the temp reading without producing vapour. Also wicking, but I doubt you have that wrong we all know about wicking.  It can be frustrating sometimes, but increasing the temp limit within reason while you figure it out in no big deal IMO.

The board ensures the coils do not exceed and average temp.


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Latest versions of EScribe: DNA 200/250DNA 75
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The problem is, that if i raise my temp, that the coil will burn the cotton if firing dry.

If this is the case, why the hell do i need TC. I also could vape on normal Power mode.

That is the reason why this is irritating the hell out of me.
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The problem is, that if i raise my temp, that the coil will burn the cotton if firing dry.

If this is the case, why the hell do i need TC. I also could vape on normal Power mode.

That is the reason why this is irritating the hell out of me.

+1 by me , well sell said mate
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I doubt you will ever burn your cotton as the vapour starts to drop of so noticeable when the wick starts to dry.  I can't tell at a distance what is causing your issues, but build or wire with the wrong TCR are the most likely in general.  I know saying it works for me and most other people doesn't help and probably annoys you, but the boards work extremely well but they can only control the max average coil temp.  You may find it easier to sort out if you use a single coil Ni200 build as that wire has the highest TCR and ther are fewer variables to deal with.

Look at the watts your build settles at in device manager, if they are a lot lower that you would use for kanthal you could need more coil contact area or airflow, but some atties just vape differently.  It could also be dual coils that are not well balanced, long legs or poor wicking.

Good luck

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Yes, there are just too many variables, to take care of.

It doesnt annoy me, when other say it works for them.

Most of the time i just to compare both settings to try to find the variable that isnt the same.

After all that it come to the way everybody vapes. I like it when it is warm, others like cold vape.

There are just to many things to take care of.

Thank you for your help ;oD
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