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This is probably the number one request I have right now. I don't understand how this isn't obvious when you design the onboard software. I guess it's because people are stuck in the past.
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John and the team are quiet, I believe they are not finding this issue important. At least to tell is if they will look at it, does it make sense to them and is there any possibility this change to be done.
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I can get into the philosophy that you set your temp once and then adjust wattage to control vapor, but that implies you are adjusting something.  In TC mode I am just setting the max wattage, so if that setting comes into play, I am not hitting temp.  In shot, if adjusting wattage changes your vape, you are below your set point and you are basically vaping in wattage mode with TC being a failsafe top end.  
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I look at it the other way that the temp is only a max limit and the wattage is the power setting, you still get the benefit of temp limiting in the nice clean flavour and pre-heat plus you can turn it up and down as the mood suits.  For me the temp is a flavour adjustment and never want to go above the sweet spot for my liquid, where as I can go up and down on power depending on mood and build anything from 15 - 120 W keep in the flavour just so.  For me it is more about flavour than clouds, but what ever keeps you off the stinkies.


I am surprised that there is not a request for changing the temp step as I have both my DNA200s set at odd numbers via Escribe and would have thought that would go hand in hand with this feature request.

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This seems like a swell idea! I'll go ahead and throw it into the ring for possible future Development.
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I look at it the other way that the temp is only a max limit and the wattage is the power setting, you still get the benefit of temp limiting in the nice clean flavour and pre-heat plus you can turn it up and down as the mood suits.  For me the temp is a flavour adjustment and never want to go above the sweet spot for my liquid, where as I can go up and down on power depending on mood and build anything from 15 - 120 W keep in the flavour just so.  For me it is more about flavour than clouds, but what ever keeps you off the stinkies.


I am surprised that there is not a request for changing the temp step as I have both my DNA200s set at odd numbers via Escribe and would have thought that would go hand in hand with this feature request.


When you have settled on a temp "sweet spot" for your best flavor, what does device manager tell you about ever getting there as you reduce power? I guess I'm not getting what you're saying unless you mean you perceive best flavor at every temp under a certain limit? Or you get better flavor if it takes a few seconds to finally reach the sweet spot temp? There's still a resulting temp from every power setting -- you're just reducing power to which has the necessary effect of reducing temp, no?
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Also, I wanted to comment as well that I am exploring a way to allow anyone to submit ideas, software enhancements, bug reports etc. I am doing my best to keep up with our support tickets and keep providing the service you all know and love, and be active here on the forums. 

I have a myriad of weird professional and hobbyist skills that fit great with what we do here at Evolv, with one of the professional skills being large Software development projects for a global industry leading Software company. If anyone is familiar with the SCRUM methodology of Software development, I would love to see us adopt this for EScribe albeit on a much smaller scale as we used SCRUM at companies previously to manage hundreds of development and QA resources.

This would allow us to turn each idea or desire into a Development project object, and assign it values for upcoming releases, mark things for the current upcoming release or a later development cycle, etc.

Obviously, this is just an idea, and I cannot make any promises, but I just wanted you guys to know we care and are listening to your feedback. [thumb]
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I look at it the other way that the temp is only a max limit and the wattage is the power setting, you still get the benefit of temp limiting in the nice clean flavour and pre-heat plus you can turn it up and down as the mood suits.  For me the temp is a flavour adjustment and never want to go above the sweet spot for my liquid, where as I can go up and down on power depending on mood and build anything from 15 - 120 W keep in the flavour just so.  For me it is more about flavour than clouds, but what ever keeps you off the stinkies.


I am surprised that there is not a request for changing the temp step as I have both my DNA200s set at odd numbers via Escribe and would have thought that would go hand in hand with this feature request.
When you have settled on a temp "sweet spot" for your best flavor, what does device manager tell you about ever getting there as you reduce power? I guess I'm not getting what you're saying unless you mean you perceive best flavor at every temp under a certain limit? Or you get better flavor if it takes a few seconds to finally reach the sweet spot temp? There's still a resulting temp from every power setting -- you're just reducing power to which has the necessary effect of reducing temp, no?


Depends a lot on the build & atty and how maxed out it is, many times I am floating around the temp limit,and on the 200 I generally run at least 100 W pre-heat so that will get me up to temp most of the time.

"I'm not getting what you're saying unless you mean you perceive best flavour at every temp under a certain limit?"  I think the clean flavour is more about not over-heating the liquid causing an irreversible chemical reaction than it is about consuming it at a specific temp providing you are getting enough vapour etc.  I will reject a build if I have to vape it over 380 F to get enough vapour, generally adding more contact area to the coil fixes that, but not always and it is much easier with the 200 than the 40 to do this.  Remember it is the average temp of the wire that is being limited not the temp of the vapour.  A 12 wrap coil at 380 F will give more vapour than an 8 wrap at 380 F, I have seen a lot of people just turning up the temp rather than improving their build and I guess that has made me a little cranky on the subject.

"There's still a resulting temp from every power setting --just reducing power to which has the necessary effect of reducing temp" only with constant airflow and perfect wicking, but not in the real world watch pBusardo talking to Brandon on the DNA40 launch video. 

I am fine with other people just setting the temp, but it's not the only way to use these and it is not a massive difference both ways will give you a great vape and better than non temp limited vaping IMO.

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I have 4 other temp Mods beside the Evolv 200 chip and they all work this way.

You set the watt and then you ajust the temp to you find your sweetspot. I would also like this feature in the Evolv 200 without having to lock the mod and use the + - to adjust the temp, But I can live with this.

This is a great Chip and what a difference in vaping experience from the Evic VT and the Istick 40w and Kopoor and the VF mini.
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I get both sides here. When I get a new juice I do adjust temp more to find what l like from it. I look at temp as a gross adjustment then I can change watts and pre heat as a fine adjustment to get a more complete flavor and vapor. Ramp the coil to fast might miss some of the flavor notes to slow you'll never get to the temp you want. But yes to change the temp when trying to find the sweet spot for build and juice can be a little annoying. Still love my 200 though
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Interesting.  Some use temp as a not to exceed.  Some use watts.  I think it is build dependent as I have had some amazing builds on drippers that you would want to ratchet down the watts to get less vapor.  For tanks though I have always let the temp be the controller as the juice flow is less.

The idea of making SCRUM input open is cool.  I have not coded in a long time and my IT work pre-dated it.
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This seems like a swell idea! I'll go ahead and throw it into the ring for possible future Development.


Thanks Nick, for appreciating our suggestions. I can imagine how many new ideas/ requests you guys have to assess and put on the scale. People are different and have different approaches to the same issues, especially in the vaping world and the not yet settled Temperature Control/ Temperature Limiting related ones. You made a great product, but you also put a big weight on your shoulders with giving us the options to customize and tinker options, screens and features. Because we are getting spoiled and we will always want more [smile]
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This seems like a swell idea! I'll go ahead and throw it into the ring for possible future Development.


Thanks Nick, for appreciating our suggestions. I can imagine how many new ideas/ requests you guys have to assess and put on the scale. People are different and have different approaches to the same issues, especially in the vaping world and the not yet settled Temperature Control/ Temperature Limiting related ones. You made a great product, but you also put a big weight on your shoulders with giving us the options to customize and tinker options, screens and features. Because we are getting spoiled and we will always want more [smile]


I will second that!
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I'd really love that instead off having lock to change temp, power lock instead, and 2 click - would allow changing temp. 2 click + changes profile so this would be much easier to get to without wearing out the fire button as it's the most used button.
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I would also prefer to set the temp on the main screen instead of watts. But i suppose this will not be added until a long time.. there are a lot of small changes that would be nice. 
Such a feature is probably very easy to implement.. which is the sad part.

I wonder if any new firmware / escribe is going to be released soon.. Been a while.
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