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Dampmaskin

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After a year of pondering, a month or two of planning and gathering gumption, and a few days (weeks?) of sweating and cursing over a computer keyboard, I have finally come up with another coil calculator (or rather, a wire calculator this time). This is for TC coils, and also for all the fancy schmancy coil freaks out there. With some luck and some time, it can grow into a calculator for most coil winding needs. Who knows?

I haven't linked to it from the Steam Engine navigation menu yet, because I don't want everyone and their grandmother using it right now. It is not a finished product. But it has reached a point where I feel it's time for some feedback, lest I go astray and turn it into a steaming (vaping) heap of garbage, so here is the sooper sekrit link for you:

Wire Wizard

Feel free to check it out, take everything with a grain of salt, and if you don't understand the first thing click "How it works". Then enjoy whatever works, try to enjoy whatever doesn't, and also feel free to say exactly what you think below.

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I see how this could be useful make whatever wire style you want type in your length for what type of ohms your wanting and that's what you have to work with. You can make a 6/5 wrap 1/8 dia or a 4/3 wrap 1/4 dia coil and still have the same ohms.
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You can really go crazy with your wire build :-)

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Wire length doesn't seem to affect the tcr either anyways. As long as the different wires are still proportionate to each other which they are
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You can really go crazy with your wire build :-)

Yeah giving people the ability to go bananas was a big part of why I decided to make it that way. [biggrin] 

But a fair warning; When you reach three or more levels of wires-within-wires, accuracy is probably not going to be stellar. I suspect that errors will accumulate and multiply, and what have you.

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Wire length doesn't seem to affect the tcr either anyways. As long as the different wires are still proportionate to each other which they are

That is correct. Wire length doesn't do much useful right now, except give you the resistance. I will add a coil wrap counter at some point, or give the user the option to select inner diameter and wrap count, and have the wire length calculated from that.

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The a new calculator that makes it easier to get TCR profiles for mixed builds hos been "officially" released. I think it may be time to add the link to the link page between EScribe and Steam Engine.

https://my.evolvapor.com/info/materials

The old calculator will still be available, so removing that link is entirely optional.


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How do i work with wire wizard if i use dual coils ?
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There's no option for that in the WW yet. Model a single coil, and halve the resulting resistance in your head. [smile] The temperature factors will be unaffected.
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Okey ill give it a try tyvm for the fast response
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Finally it works youre my hero Dampmaskin [thumb]

Now working on other wires

Thx alot
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The temperature factors will be unaffected


TCR is unaffected by how many wires, provided it's the same material, yes?
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The temperature factors will be unaffected


TCR is unaffected by how many wires, provided it's the same material, yes?

yes

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if you are just looking for TCR of a uniform wire build (all the same type of wire,) than all you need to do is select a single round wire of that type. no other field matters as it will all be the same. if you want to calculate resistance (or any other value) than you need to completely fill out the wire wizard. finally, if you are going to be doing a hybrid wire build (at least two different types of wire,) and want accurate information including TCR you need to completely fill it out as well. 

also wire wizard can do parallel builds just fine. if you are doing parallel coils (two different coils) in the first drop down in the wire builder choose parallel. in the new field which opens to the right build the individual coils which will be installed. if you are doing a parallel wrap (lets say two wires wrapped together to form one coil) in the first drop down you would select twisted as the type, choose the number of wires, and for the twist pitch just set it to something absurdly high (ie. 500mm) to that they are not calculated as twisted at all. one limitation in the tool is that you cant do parallel wraps with different materials using this method. for example lets say you wanted to parallel wrap one kantal wire with either another wire type (ie SS) or design (ie ribbon), you are unable to input that into the steam engine. 


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Is one of the wires in the wizard equivalent to "Rene 41"?
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Looks like Rene 41 has 9+% Molybdenum and 10+% Cobalt in it. I'm no expert, but from what I've heard, I'm not sure if it's safe to have any of those in contact with your vapor.

But in any case it seems to have some popularity. I'll see what I can find out about it.

Update: I can't seem to find a TCR for it anywhere.

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